{"id":60,"date":"2005-04-10T18:28:54","date_gmt":"2005-04-11T00:28:54","guid":{"rendered":"\/?p=60"},"modified":"2005-04-10T19:18:41","modified_gmt":"2005-04-11T01:18:41","slug":"is-the-goal-understanding-or-prediction","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hunch.net\/?p=60","title":{"rendered":"Is the Goal Understanding or Prediction?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/math.berkeley.edu\/~smale\/\">Steve Smale<\/a> and I have a debate about goals of learning theory.<\/p>\n<p>Steve likes theorems with a dependence on unobservable quantities.  For example, if <em>D<\/em> is a distribution over a space <em>X x [0,1]<\/em>, you can state a theorem about the error rate dependent on the variance, <em>E<sub>(x,y)~D<\/sub> (y-E<sub>y&#8217;~D|x<\/sub>[y&#8217;])<sup>2<\/sup><\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>I dislike this, because I want to use the theorems to produce code solving learning problems.  Since I don&#8217;t know (and can&#8217;t measure) the variance, a theorem depending on the variance does not help me&#8212;I would not know what variance to plug into the learning algorithm.<\/p>\n<p>Recast more broadly, this is a debate between &#8220;declarative&#8221; and &#8220;operative&#8221; mathematics.  A strong example of &#8220;declarative&#8221; mathematics is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.wolframscience.com\/\">&#8220;a new kind of science&#8221;<\/a>.  Roughly speaking, the goal of this kind of approach seems to be finding a way to explain the observations we make.  Examples include &#8220;some things are unpredictable&#8221;, &#8220;a phase transition exists&#8221;, etc&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Operative&#8221; mathematics helps you make predictions about the world.  A strong example of operative mathematics is Newtonian mechanics in physics: it&#8217;s a great tool to help you predict what is going to happen in the world.  <\/p>\n<p>In addition to the &#8220;I want to do things&#8221; motivation for operative mathematics, I find it less arbitrary.  In particular, two reasonable people can each be convinced they understand a topic in ways so different that they do not understand the viewpoint.  If these understandings are operative, the rest of us on the sidelines can better appreciate which understanding is &#8220;best&#8221;.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Steve Smale and I have a debate about goals of learning theory. Steve likes theorems with a dependence on unobservable quantities. For example, if D is a distribution over a space X x [0,1], you can state a theorem about the error rate dependent on the variance, E(x,y)~D (y-Ey&#8217;~D|x[y&#8217;])2. I dislike this, because I want &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hunch.net\/?p=60\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Is the Goal Understanding or Prediction?&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-60","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-organization"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/hunch.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/60","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/hunch.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/hunch.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hunch.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hunch.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=60"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/hunch.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/60\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/hunch.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=60"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hunch.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=60"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hunch.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=60"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}