{"id":318,"date":"2008-02-27T13:35:08","date_gmt":"2008-02-27T19:35:08","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/hunch.net\/?p=318"},"modified":"2008-02-27T13:35:08","modified_gmt":"2008-02-27T19:35:08","slug":"the-stats-handicap","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hunch.net\/?p=318","title":{"rendered":"The Stats Handicap"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Graduating students in Statistics appear to be at a substantial handicap compared to graduating students in Machine Learning, despite being in substantially overlapping subjects.<\/p>\n<p>The problem seems to be cultural.  Statistics comes from a mathematics background which emphasizes large publications slowly published under review at journals.  Machine Learning comes from a Computer Science background which emphasizes quick publishing at reviewed conferences.  This has a number of implications:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Graduating statistics PhDs often have 0-2 publications while graduating machine learning PhDs might have 5-15.<\/li>\n<li>Graduating ML students have had a chance for others to build on their work.  Stats students have had no such chance.<\/li>\n<li>Graduating ML students have attended a number of conferences and presented their work, giving them a chance to meet people.  Stats students have had fewer chances of this sort.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>In short, Stats students have had relatively few chances to distinguish themselves and are heavily reliant on their advisors for jobs afterwards.  This is a poor situation, because advisors have a strong incentive to place students well, implying that recommendation letters must always be considered with a grain of salt.<\/p>\n<p>This problem is more or less prevalent depending on which Stats department students go to.  In some places the difference is substantial, and in other places not.<\/p>\n<p>One practical implication of this, is that when considering graduating stats PhDs for hire, some amount of affirmative action is in order.  At a minimum, this implies spending extra time getting to know the candidate and what the candidate can do is in order. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Graduating students in Statistics appear to be at a substantial handicap compared to graduating students in Machine Learning, despite being in substantially overlapping subjects. The problem seems to be cultural. Statistics comes from a mathematics background which emphasizes large publications slowly published under review at journals. Machine Learning comes from a Computer Science background which &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/hunch.net\/?p=318\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;The Stats Handicap&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[23,29,34],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-318","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-funding","category-machine-learning","category-statistics"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/hunch.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/318","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/hunch.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/hunch.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hunch.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hunch.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=318"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/hunch.net\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/318\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/hunch.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=318"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hunch.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=318"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/hunch.net\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=318"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}